Vanilla Poor View Structure - Why not complete the MVC model perfectly?

Wakish

Hello Vanilla devs!
First let me express my appreciation for the "way" this forum package has been coded from a developers point of view. I think it is the first MVC coded opensource forum package available? Very neatly structured patterns.

That said, I see one part where you fail. The theme is stored in php variables and then outputted. In other words, you are making a terrible mixture of codes and html tags which is AWEFUL! It does not make sense to me that you guys with such a good MVC approach fails the view part? Just consider how painful it is for someone who wants to work on a different theme.

Solution:
What I propose is that you guys try to separate html templates from the codes. Use a templating library like SAVANT since it is completely OOP oriented and will fit perfectly in this MVC model.

I think if you guy cope with this "view" part, it will be a perfectly structured from a developers point of view. And hence more flexibility for people designing new themes.

I have fell in love with this package, I'm impressed with the following:
1) It's simplicity
2) It's coding philosophy

Keep going Vanilla, it's a damm good work!
- Wakish -
(Wakish Wonderz)

Wakish

urm, why is the next line taken as single lines?

S

PHP: <?php if($DataSet->NumRows() == 0):?> <li><?php echo $VarName ?> </li> <?endif;?>

some cheerless-shit-template engine
{if NumRow eq 0} <li>{VarName} </li> {/if}

What is the difference?

S

Logic and output are separated in Garden (MVC?). Full separated php code and html is not necessary.
Replacement native php by any template engine code it is a "replacement awl for soap" (our proverb), to the prejudice of speed -)

Wakish

<?php //head.php $HeadString = 'all html pertaining to the head + php tags everywhere'; echo $HeadString . '</head>'; ?>

This was very sexy?

It's not about difference, it's about organizing the page in a way that a web designer (or any other one willing to change the html structure) can have more flexibility in what he does best, presenting/structuring HTML.

In the example of the head/footer, it's cool for him to modify something, not to mention the headaches of escaping characters!? Heck not!

Wakish

Ah ok, I was looking at the stable version. So the 2.0 is using the so-called "Garden" which has a better "Views"?

The GARDEN is a framework you guys are creating? Never heard of it before, I could not browse it's domain, it redirects back to vf.org?

Thanks!

S

@Comment_99036 Do you mean Vanilla 1 here or what?
Anyway, check http://vanillaforums.org/docs

oinkfu

Yeah he was talking about Vanilla 1 obviously.