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Stupid things that make you want to walk into the w3c with a gun... The irony of it all

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  • bugsmi0bugsmi0
    I wish the web would go back to the way it use to be before w3c lol there are many who would conisder standards as being highly over-rated on some levels it just gives people more stuff to think about get frustrated about and argue about
  • WallPhoneWallPhone
    Um... before the W3C there were fewer than 700 web servers.

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  • KrakKrak New
    Are you seriously wishing there were no standards?!

    You may have problems with them from time to time, but they do nothing but help. This is the same with any standard, in any industry. They are a necessity. Without them, it would be pure chaos. And no one but the creator would ever be able to do anything with it (whatever "it" may be).
  • bugsmi0bugsmi0
    everything in the universe was meant to be different not clone like, standards are ok for some things but they can also limit the potential as well. I see how standards in the world creates more problems in most cases, i'm better than you, My feet smell better than yours, everyone must wear the same kind of socks to look cool its all rubbish. Standards is a form of control. Web standards are fine but I also think it gets out of hand and borders on insanity. I've built websites in the past using only tables and zero standards and it never effected anything in a negative way, now I use CSS but I consider CSS an advanced form of web insanity its not for the simple minded nope, you'll not see me worship the standards god lol
  • WandererWanderer
     Quote: bugsmi0  ...standards are ok for some things but they can also limit the potential as well. I see how standards in the world creates more problems in most cases...
    Bugs, you obviously have never had a client demand $2000.00 back because the web site you built for him looked "crap" on an old PC running Internet Exploder with the window half-open and the light shining in at a 79 degree angle while he half-squinted with a slight slant of his head wearing lightly tinted sunglasses?

    I was able to set him straight by showing him that I wrote to "standards" and that's all I ever promised. As for limiting potential, that depends on your perspective, I don't think having your creation look exactly as you designed it limiting in any way.
  • KrakKrak New
    Things can be different yet also follow the same basic set of guidelines. Like the basic way things should be gone about. It is not a matter of "mine is better than yours". It is to allow us to all flow in the same direction. I do not see it as a form of control but more of a direction to travel.

    I don't see how they can limit potential either, as they are not a set of laws, they are standards. Certainly there are times when you need to go beyond, and that is fine.

    I think some people are confusing "standards" with "rules" or "laws".
  • bugsmi0bugsmi0
    it is a form of control, you just been following the propaganda too long belief is a powerful social drug lol, I tell all my clients to use Firefox Browser plain and simple and if necessary buy a better computer or better still buy a mac. The website shouldn't look like crap if its done right, also they get what they pay for, cheap almost always equals (TABLES) so make it look pretty and if they want a better site they have to pay more and if they want to see it better on their computer well they may need a better browser or pc. Consultation works every time ;-) Not all standards are bad but not all are good either one must not fall into the girly trends of design. People want content they don't care so much about the pretty blue box on the left corner and if its lined up at 28 pixels.
  • WandererWanderer
     Quote: bugsmi0   I tell all my clients to use Firefox Browser plain and simple and if necessary buy a better computer or better still buy a mac
    Sounds to me like you are setting a "standard" eh what?
  • bjrnbjrn
    I tell all my clients to use Firefox Browser plain and simple and if necessary buy a better computer or better still buy a mac.
    Not long ago there were lots of websites you could only view with IE, there still are some. I really dislike websites only made for one browser, it kind of defeats the neatness of web pages.

    I really don't understand what you mean when you say there shouldn't be standards. Do you mean you should be able to use any tag you want, and ever browser should be smart enough to guess what you mean? You do understand that your websites using "only tables and zero standards" only worked because of web standards, right? Without standards you would make websites using no tags at all, just plain text all the way ;)
  • garymardellgarymardell ✭
    This page conforms to Gary Mardell stardards of "it works so leave it"
  • KrakKrak New
    Fear what you do not understand.
  • bugsmi0bugsmi0
    whoops yoda in the batush, oh undersand I do padwansnoppface lol
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