French translation for Vanilla 1.0

Ghotcom

Hello folks, I just upgraded my public forum to version pre-alpha 1.0 ;) , and all i can say is that Vanilla rocks solidly !! Now i don't see any french language add-on, so I am going to write it myself by simply repackaging the german files after I have made the translation and other changings. Wait..

Mark

Thanks for the kudos

jakob_r

Ghotcom, use the english definitions.php as your basis as it's always most up-to-date (i.e. Mark added some new definitions a day or two ago). In the German-formal definitions you'll also find some of the common strings from extensions added to the end of the file.

Ghotcom

Okay, i will take care of that. Thanks By the way, what CLI or GUI text editor do you suggest me to accomplish this task ? ( I am using Gentoo Linux ) Vim or programs alike that support highlighted tags ?

lech

Bluefish

Bergamot

Emacs?

(ducks)

Ghotcom

Thanks, I will start off with Bluefish. Bergamot: Emacs is ncurses-based ? Regarding the language related files, what is definitions.hist ?

Bergamot

Ghotcom: no, but I regard that as a feature

lech

Vi, Emacs, whatever, if you know how, you should be able to easily tie a highlighter to any of them if they have the option to do it. Personally, under *nix based systems with either gnome/kde/variant (XFCE Baby!) I preffer BlueFish, it's pretty nifty and probably as powerful as any other free windows or other editor.

Ghotcom

Bergamot: What do you mean ? I didn't grasp :-/ sorry

lech: well well

I have begun the translation process, i am moving switfly, maybe 1/3 of the definitions.php is done lol. Last minute i was working on these sentences : Configure how often you should be reminded to check for updates. Ping back to Lussumo for the latest updates for Vanilla.
Roles & Permissions
Add, edit, and organize roles and permissions.
Registration Settings
Define how new members are handled: which role they are assigned to, do they require administrative approval, etc.

Verbs are in the infinitive or imperative form ?
For example, in french, we would say "To add, edit, and organize roles and permissions" So I don't don't know whether i should take this as "Go edit" or describing action by "To edit" Any idea ?

jakob_r

The Updates and Reminders, Roles & Permissions and Registration Settings texts are headings, the text beneath describes what you can do in that area. In German it's written "here you can configure how often..." and "add, edit and organize roles and permissions here" etc.

lech

Most of Vanilla's languages (at least the short defenitions) are of the imperative order, as some are used to join other phrases found throughout the language file. Since I don't read or write french let alone speak it, I would say just use your best judgement and try to do a word for word translation at first. Then flip through a copy of Vanilla you're testing it on to see how accurate things appear in your language. Then make your corrections and repeat edits as necessary.

Ghotcom

I have definitely made use of the imperative mode and active form in general, as some phrases were too long to remain in the infinitive. By now i am progressing through the Terms of Use part, which will be the most difficult for me as I don't know much of the law-related language both in english and french. For that reason I thought the previous french add-on for Vanilla-0.9.2 would help, but I see it nowhere, what happened to it ?

lech

I don't think there was a proper TOS until the most recent version. I could be wrong though.

Ghotcom

Sorry I got it in my Vanilla-0.9.2 files backup, will check for it now

Ghotcom

I came to another ambiguous word: "sink". What does it mean in context of "sink discussion" "sink label" or whatever ? Is it meant to replace the remove action while keeping with the technical background ?

Bergamot

"sink" prevents new comments from bumping a thread back to the top of the discussion list.

Ghotcom

I see now. Thus it is more close to the root idea than I thought :) This is a new feature to Vanilla 1.0 , right ?

Bergamot

Yep.

Ghotcom

I have completed translation of the definitions.php file, but one thing remains unchanged, the XML:lang attribute for the html tag. What should I enter for it ?

jakob_r

For french I believe it's xml:lang="fr"

see what w3c has to say about it.