Tagging System

jimw

People speak of tagging in several different ways. The one extension I converted creates a list of keywords from the information in the comments and discussion items. That is one definition of sorts. I am also working on the category tagging aspect to display the category titles with the number of items in the category with a link to the list (like the keywords). This third way of tagging, if I may paraphrase, is adding a tag in the post to identify your own keywords (the tag code be [tag] [/tag]). Or adding a field to the comment form in which to enter your keywords.

And then you have the delicious or other tagging systems. Do I have it right?

Toivo

anyone working on it?

MySchizoBuddy

There is a tagging plugin for FCkeditor that integrates with technorati, flickr, del.icious. and wikipedia. Once you tag ur comments you can browse them from del.icio.us ofcource

0bvious

Anyone got any further with this? I'd like to see a plugin which automatically sent forum posts to a delicious account (the API is really simple).

I'd have a crack at this myself, but I have no php knowledge. Perhaps a tweak of the Latest Posts add-on?

MySchizoBuddy

sending it to del.icious is pretty easy. just manual not automatic

Krak

Someone from that one forum (yeah that makes sense) that was found has a tagging extension. I believe they said it was proprietary though. But I am sure you could ask some questions.

Cant remember the discussion it was posting in.

Toivo

nags a little bit. any progress?

MySchizoBuddy

i don't think anyone is making this.

Dinoboff

Didn't you ask jazzman?

TomTester

Bump.

@ JimW: very much like your Aug 31st suggestion of marking tags within the
text as bbcode. Very elegant and not intrusive in the editing process.

I've been considering the use of 'fixed' tags (limited set, pre-defined) as an
alternative to true subcategories. I'd prefer a fixed set to avoid the usual
clutter that results from 10 people with 10 different vocabularies and tagging
preferences.

In my case these would be tags indicating the type of post, (e.g. event, art,
social, business, free/cover, etc. etc.).

Possible approaches:

- modify the bbcode toolbar (which I love) to insert custom BB-Codes which are then replaced with icons.
(+) can encapsulate content, can be interpreted, can be indexed by search engines

- modify vanillacons to insert new graphical tags
(+) easy to add more tags, allows for different tag categories (-) not easy to explain, tags canot encapsulate content

- modify 'transmogrifier' to do the same
(+) easy to add (type custom code) (-) easy to make mistakes, screw up vanilla

Anyway, no posting to delicious mechanism is proposed/envisioned here,
but I do plan to test all three of the above approaches this weekend.

Toivo

haaa, but what about this one ... modify search, "find anything with these words (in bold)" & just mark keywords with bold tags = by definition something important that describes the text and bold is by definition something so goddamn important that others HAVE to see tags= bold p.s. build appropriate defense mechanisms (if >10% bold then skip)

TomTester

@Toivo Nice 'hack' perhaps, but does not separate content from markup,
and I consider that a must for later re-purposing of content.

(also the main reason I favor the bbcode approach [tag]keyword[/tag])

Toivo

okay, what if I want to change tag [event] to [events] later?

TomTester

Not sure what you'r asking.

As a user? BBCode tags are visible even when you edit, so just edit the text and or tags I guess.
As an admin? Ditto, or database-wide there are tools (e.g. export all records containing [event] or [/event] etc.)

garvin

Personally, I'd like to see a tagging system using a drop down menu. That drop down menu would have about 4-5 options of what to tag. Basically, the customer manager install I am using, I have one topic per customer in the "Technical Support" category, which is whispered to them and anytime they have an issue, they just post a comment in there.

It would be nice if when they go in that category to add a support request (comment), they can also choose a "topic" in a dropdown menu above their text area which they could use to more define their issue such as support for: email, vanilla, statistics, shopping cart, etc. Then, their text area, they would post the exact problem.

That would be my exact use for this, but obviously, I think that is outside the box of the normal need.

Toivo

i.e. tags would remain inside post text. If administrator wants to change tags he should do some search-replace operation in mysql (change "Conferences" tag into "Conferences & festivals" tag)

Stash

IMO, tags are useless if you can't use every/any word you like. Being limited to a drop down list is like having to jam your company into one of those broad categories.

I'm liking the [tag][/tag] idea though. Ideally, you'd have a text box which automatically adds the words you [tag][/tag] which also allows you to add tags that AREN'T in the text you're typing.

jimw

I've updated my WeightedWords extension to display all "words". I haven't yet uploaded it, but will do shortly. If you want to see it in action, please visit my forum. I've also included the amount of time it took to generate the list. This should be good for other forums which are heavily used. It's like the houseblogs forum from which I borrowed the idea.