A tad un-needed?

Mr Do

ooh. i will be willing to test this on my forum. looking forward to it :)

Dinoboff

You can try it there:
Vanilla-packer 0.3.1.beta

To install it:

1. Back up all your files
2. Copy the files in the package on top of the vanilla one (There is only the files needed to be cached)
3. Be sure that /js/cache/, /themes/vanilla/style/default/cache and conf/packer.php are writable

Dinoboff

I added some wiki pages to help install the patch and debugging it.

Installation
Changes in care Functionality
Extension issue (to build)

Mr Do

so u use it successfully now?

Dinoboff

I only testy it on local. And it is working fine, but I can't really tell how useful, on a local server, the number of request is not an issue.

When your browser cache is empty, without extension, with almost instant load of css and js file, using the packer (with gzip on) make the page load 40 to 100ms slower.

So if loading of panelfade.gif take more than 100ms (browser cache empty), the packer should be useful.

Stash

I'll see if I can get this going on my test server tonight...

NickE

@mark: why not use the jquery autcomplete plugin ?

Dinoboff

He would be happy to

TomTester

Very curious to see how well it works...

Reading wiki/ChangesInFunctionalities makes me wonder if the 'cure' isn't a tad complex.

Dinoboff

3/4 of it is for developer; Except if you want to use Scriptaculous or want you script to be minified, in 99% of the case, you won't have to change the way you add script and sheets.

The part that everybody who install it will have to deal with is the part about relative path in css.

For example, is mark was using it for this page, he would have to copy:
http://lussumo.com/community/extensions/AddOnIntegration/ico.alert2.gif
http://lussumo.com/community/extensions/AddOnIntegration/ico.download.gif
http://lussumo.com/community/extensions/LussumoBanner/bannerfadeblue3.gif
http://lussumo.com/community/extensions/LussumoBanner/lussumo.logo.gif

to

http://lussumo.com/community/themes/vanilla/styles/default/

Also it's not compatible with the Custom style url feature

Stash

By Custom style url feature do you mean Friendly URLs?

Looking at this, I don't think I'm going to have time to implement this for a day or two as I have to decipher the company website's ASPX ans SQL Server which I know nothing about - erugh

Dinoboff

no, what allow you switch style, more exactly the part that allow to use a style from an other server.

Dinoboff

I tried it on a remote server. After installation of vanilla, the forum is completely loaded in 6.5 sec

First, I got an error message. The installer wasn't compatible with mysql 4.1. So I fixed it and just upload a new version:

Vanilla-packer

The request for a file as little as panelfade.gif take 350ms to 700ms. The discussion page on a bare forum (no discussions, no extension), with an empty cache and the packages compressed in gzip show up after 1,5 second and is completely loaded after 2,5, packages compressed in gzip.

Tomorrow, I will install an other forum without the patch to compare the loading with the files cached or not. I will them compare with some popular addons.

Dinoboff

here are the testing forum: http://www.edinet.co.uk/ With an empty cache, I've got an 2.5s to load it http://test.edinet.co.uk/ With an empty cache, I've got an 6.7s to load it

mallow005

3 requests at 17k
vs
7 requests at 80k

Great improvement!

Stash

On my connection:
6 requests at 21kb at 3.5s
vs
10 requests at 84kb at 8.5s

That's a massive improvement in my book. Just from the point of view of actually hitting the page, the packed site felt good and the unmodified site felt sluggish. That kind of difference cannot be ignored. I'm just having a little bit of trouble understanding exactly what the implications are for extensions, themes and styles with this mod...

y2kbg

1.85 seconds

vs

8.86

wow what a diff

this definitly shoild be core!!! plus when mark touches something, it automatically become compatable with everthing(or maybe he is just goos a tweaking :P)

Dinoboff

If you create a theme or style, that doesn't change anything... Well in fact yes, it changing something, you need to add the packer.php file + the cache directory into the style folder.

If you create an extension:

• If you need to add a script, you have to know if the script can be merge with the other script and if it can be minified.
  • If The script can be merge and you don't know if it can be minified, you add the script like you did before (99% of the case).
  • If it can't be merge with the other scripts (e.g. it is hosted on an other forum), you had the script this way:$Head->AddScript('http://www.jsparadise.com/greatlibrary.js', 150, 0); // will be loaded before the package // or $Head->AddScript('http://www.jsparadise.com/greatscript.js', 450, 0); // will be loaded after the package
  • You want the script to be minified:$head->AddScript('extensions/GreatExtension/greatscript.js', 350, 1, 1);
• If you need to add a sheet, you need to know if it can be merge if you use background images:
  • The style sheet can be merged, you don't use background images in your css: you add your sheet like you did before.
  • It can be merge, but you use background images: you add your sheet like you did before and you let the users know that they need to copy the images in his style folder(s)
  • the sheet can't be merged, you add it like that:$Head->AddStyleSheet('http://css.hea.ven/perfectstyle.css', 'screen', '900', 0);//will be loaded after the package

y2kbg

whoa so if a forum http://www.investorsbull.com has a bejillion extension's they could all be merged into one file?

mallow005

Not necessarily, it depends what kind of extensions they are. If they are well written Javascript extensions, they probably can be.