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  • edited August 2006
    haha, ok totally out of context, first off the tip thing was a joke. Second off, i'm saying that people live on $2 a day or less throughout the entire world, not just the US. You can't tell me that everyone who is poor is poor by choice, thats absurd. Thats like saying you have parkinsons or MS by choice. Are there people in the world who are lazy? Sure, but thats not the majority. But think about it, the United States is a federal republic, with capitalism and consumerism as its driving economic force. Inherent in the systems is a NEED for a lower class, it doesn't without it. Even if there was enough money for everyone to be millionaires it wouldn't work because capitalism requires a lower class.

    You can tip or not, I don't care. I tip according to the service as well, but good service gets 15-20% and poor service gets 5-15%, if someone upset me enough that I am considering not tipping, then I'm not leaving without talking to the manager, because thats gotta be some poor service.
  • you tip better than UK folks then, Trik. Over here, tipping is unheard of, unless for exceptional service. But then again, our staff get average to good wages. In America, staff who wait tables get paid criminally low wages. Thus they are very dependent on tips. I don't like that way of doing things in America. Staff should get a decent wage......and tipping should be the exception, not the norm.
  • edited August 2006
    You can feel sorry for these people who work these jobs but they choose it, they don't have the right to make use feel sorry for them even if they do work their ass off. A janitor works his ass off and never gets a tip so i'm certainlly not going to tip a waiter for doing average service. re: poverty parents who are poor who raise their kids ot be poor are still by default choosing to be poor be it known to them or not known, they inherit the choice by their parents, at what point does the kid stop blaming their parents for them being born, makes you think. If you want to stop being poor then start making more money, its simple, its choice
  • Always good to have a democrat in the house. ;)
  • I wonder if they born an absolutely ignorant cunt or just became that way through having to compensate for a lack of brain matter.....?
  • edited August 2006
    someone said a naughty word lol i'm neither a democrat or a republican maybe something else :-)
  • edited August 2006
    Hah, I was at a restaurant today for lunch and our waiters were doing a horrible job, not checking on us, not getting us refills, nothing. Finally, we called one of the staff over and asked them about getting a refill and told her what is up.

    She told us (and I quote), "They said they don't want to serve you because you won't tip them."

    Come on guys, a little common sense: if you don't do any work, then you certainly shouldn't expect a tip! Maybe if you actually tried you would get one.
  • Yeah the whole tipping thing is kind of tough to work with since they do depend on that to ballance out their below average pay. The thing that really bugs me is that you are *supposed* to tip a waiter more if you buy a steak than if you buy soup. I say don't base a tip on the cost of your meal, base it on the service. Figure out what kind of money good service deserves versus average service.

    What I WILL NOT DO, is tip someone at one of those places with a tip jar by the register. Like I'm going to tip some place that never even actually serves me apart from making my food. I'm looking at you, Coffee shops!
  • edited August 2006
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    was just checking this out lol
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  • @strawberries

    Haha, you pegged me, its not that I don't like Republicans, its just I liked them in the 1860s.

    RE: Poverty

    Graba a copy of A People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn
    Then pick up Savage Inequalities by Jonothan Kozol

    Then come back and post an intelligent remark, and try not use the word "use" when you meant "you's" neither of which would have been correct. =P

    And personally I don't really like our system of tipping. Yes they make $2.83 an hour, which is still more than some people live on in an entire day. But by our standard of living, they HAVE to be tipped or else they aren't going to afford to pay rent so their kids can sleep and be alert for school the next morning. lol, now if they suck as a waiter/waitress then talk to the manager, who can educate them on what they are doing wrong instead of just not leaving a tip and then them thinking you're just a dick.

    Constructive Criticism goes a long way, even negative reinforcement like not tipping only works if they know why they aren't getting a tip. Same thing with training a dog, it needs to know why you're smacking it with a newspaper, how else would you expect it to stop doing what you don't like!
  • edited August 2006
    If you are going to tip then you have to tip every tom, dick and harry, janitors, store clerks, drive through cashier, window cleaner, guy on the corner selling newspapers, tip everyone fuck the service industry if they want a tip they better give some good service, better tip your mothers too they had to put up with your shit for 9 months lol

    people are not stupid, they know why they don't get tipped, why do you think these jobs get paid so low ? we need a place for these kinds of people to work in our society, somebody has to clean the dumptsers and wash my dishes

    they all planned well, when I grow up I am going to sell hamburgers at mcdonalds, big dreams
  • You think your mother only put up with your shit for 9 months? Did she give you up for adoption or something?
  • hahaha. I don't think this will end well though.
  • On a similar strand, although I dont tip my parents, if i ever come into a large sum of money the first thing I'd do (well maybe second after pimpin some bitches) is pay off their mortgage/debts/whatever and send them off on holiday somewhere - I (or anyone else I believe) can never repay my parents enough for everything they've done for me.
  • well said mini. If i could, I'd do the very same thing. My parents had a hard upbringing, like most folks around here. Money was tight and they had to make it go as far as possible. But they made so many personal sacrifices for me. You only appreciate it when you get older and think back.
  • $2 is twice what you need to become rich. See what Scrooge McDuck happened to earn with only $1!
  • Oh man, wasn't it a dime? He kept it in a case, and somehow it had magical powers cuz that one witch duck always wanted it. Man I miss that show!
  • edited August 2006
    It was a dime--the first coin he ever earned shining shoes in Glagsgow.

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    Oddly, Magica Despell was rarely in the comic books. Carl Barks, RIP.
  • LOL, omg i feel like I'm a latchkey kid waiting for my parents to come home from work again... lol.
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