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Internet Explorer Boycott

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  • Elliott HirdElliott Hird
    XD

    :P

    ...damn.
  • 3stripe3stripe ✭✭
    What scares me is that whatever version of IE ships with Vista is gonna be what we're stuck with for the next 5 years or so...
  • Elliott HirdElliott Hird
    IE7 - it sucks. And why not download fsking firefox?
  • Elliott HirdElliott Hird
    (clarification: they stop all ie-targeted hack fixes without fixing the bugs they hack around)
  • Elliott HirdElliott Hird
    BTW it does support margin: 0 auto if you're in strict mode
  • MinisweeperMinisweeper New
    I tried using opera. It crashed on me more than firefox did.
    I'll be the first to agree firefox's memory management needs sorting out though. I'm rarely using less than 150meg of ram with it...
  • timberfordtimberford
    the version of ie7 i've played around with, i found to be really good. visiting a lot of the sites i've created with css layouts didn't show any nasty breakages.
  • Elliott HirdElliott Hird
    Hahahah, you make me laugh for being so uneducated about what IE does :P.

    You think most webdevs dont hand out stuff to IE specifically?
    Hah.
  • MinisweeperMinisweeper New
    elliot - would you be so kind as to spend more time actually reading other peoples comments and less time insulting them? Timberford specifically talked about the sites HE'D created and therefore i suggest he's probably well aware of where it does and doesnt specifically cater for IE.
  • Elliott HirdElliott Hird
    Sorry, misread. Did you check them in v6 though ;) and are they standards compliant?
  • skyfexskyfex
    Elliot: You should also read the first post properly too. I didn't say a complete boycott. I said, make a similar but more stripped down design, and put up a small notice saying you need a new browser to show the webpage properly.

    Firefox has shown that people have no trouble downloading a new browser. If 80% haven't gotten a new browser, it's because they haven't been asked. As a computer "expert" i get asked to fix computers a lot, and I see people who have Firefox installed surprisingly often.

    Also, spyware/adware has shown that people will not hesitate to download software to display a website. If they say yes to some crap they've never heard of, do you think they won't download a piece of software they've probably heard of, and that someone they know probably use?
  • lechlech ✭
    To be tried and true, the more compliant and complex you make your css/html the less of a chance IE will render it correctly (most of the time). To be fair however, many browsers are guilty of little marginal differences, and totaly capable of ignoring your set styles and over-ride things to such a degree that you'll sit there pulling out your hair for 2 hours finding that negative margin you've implimented on something polar opposite of what you're attempting to debug... The one thing I would LOVE to see Microsoft do is make IE optional, and even possibly offer other popular browsers as a user alternative (yeah, that's being HIGHLY optimistic there). But not to derail this train any further, have you by chance checked out http://explorerdestroyer.com/ ? it seems like a nice little project if you're truely wishing to stab those IE users in the face and offer them up an alternative.
  • NickENickE New
    edited January 2006
    You can't just completely get rid of IE, it plays a large part in the operating system itself. Even your background, if set to something besides a bitmap, is rendered with IE, starting with the IE4 active desktop.
  • lechlech ✭
    Yes, it's become a large part of the system itself, which I think for the most part isn't necessarily beneficial. It's been proven that if it goes unupdated, it becomes a huge security risk. Remember in earlier versions of windows IE was completely optional. Microsoft has just made it so that if you don't have IE you're essentially screwed, and that's one thing I don't like about windows as a whole.
  • BergamotBergamot
    edited January 2006
    You can't just completely get rid of IE
    Yes, you can. Unless you meant "get rid of MSHTML.DLL" in which case you can, but it's a little bit of work.

    It's just a shared HTML rendering library, which is used by several applications; it's not running in the fucking kernel.
    It's been proven that if it goes unupdated, it becomes a huge security risk.
    Like every other piece of internet-enabled software?
  • AmbitiousLemonAmbitiousLemon
    I've found this technique to be simple tasteful and effective. Too Cool
  • gigingergiginger New
    I prefer something that only appears when IE is used though. Is there a way to do that with the too cool approach?
  • timberfordtimberford
    use the * html hack on the css
  • nick1prestanick1presta
    No, don't use that. IE7 will clean this up and you don't want to have IE rendering problems within versions of IE. You will want to use conditional statements. <!--[if lt IE 7]> <style type="text/css"> #foo { property: value; } </style> <![endif]--> This way, you don't have to worry about IE updating some hacks and not others.
  • timberfordtimberford
    edited January 2006
    you are totally right ie7 actually ignores the * html like firefox etc. does
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