Is there a way to make a user account undeletable?

pcchenard

I want to give the moderators the ability to manage accounts. But I do not want them to be able to delete any user accounts and certainly not the main administrator account, whether on purpose or accidentally. I have given them ADD, APPROVE & EDIT permissions for "Users" in the Garden settings thinking that not giving them the DELETE permission would take care of it, but then they can't even see the user list. The only way they can see the user list is if they have been granted ALL permissions.

Is there at least some way to make my main admin user account undeletable?

Thanks.

peregrine

if for example you Don't want UserID 5 to be deleted.

try this:

    public function UserController_BeforeUserDelete_Handler($Sender) {
      if($Sender->User->UserID == "5")
         trigger_error(ErrorMessage("You cannot delete the user:" . $Sender->User->UserID . " Permission Denied"), E_USER_ERROR);

    }

hgtonight

Make a plugin. Add a column to the user table called 'Indelible'. Tiny int 1 is fine. Default to 0. Check this on delete.

public function UserController_BeforeUserDelete_Handler($Sender) {
  if($Sender->User->Indelible && !Gdn::Session()->User->Admin) {
    $Sender->EventArguments['CanDelete'] = FALSE;
  }
}

public function Structure() {
  Gdn::Structure()
    ->Table('Discussion')
    ->Column('Indelible', 'tinyiny(1)', '0')
    ->Set();
}

public function Setup() {
  $this->Structure();
}

You could extend this with a nice interface for setting the users to indelible, but I am a little lazy right now.

EDIT - @peregrine beat me to it!

peregrine

aside from the options above. if they don't have delete option.

they could still edit your role if you give them edit permissions.

but you could probably trigger on a handler to take care of that as well

add these to a plugin.

   public function UserController_BeforeUserEdit_Handler($Sender) {
      if($Sender->User->UserID == "6")
         trigger_error(ErrorMessage("You cannot Edit the user:" . $Sender->User->UserID . " Permission Denied"), E_USER_ERROR);

    }


    public function UserController_BeforeUserDelete_Handler($Sender) {
      if($Sender->User->UserID == "6")
         trigger_error(ErrorMessage("You cannot delete the user:" . $Sender->User->UserID . " Permission Denied"), E_USER_ERROR);

    }

Best to stick with Moderators you can trust.

By the way, they could see a user list with

http://vanillaforums.org/addon/memberslistenh-plugin

businessdad

@hgtonight said:

public function Setup() {
  $this->Setup();
}

Aaaaaaand you will get a nice infinite recursion!

hgtonight

@businessdad said:
Aaaaaaand you will get a nice infinite recursion!

Oh dear!

This is why you shouldn't type things from memory when you have a perfectly good source file to copy from.

Nice catch!

pcchenard

@peregrine said:
aside from the options above. if they don't have delete option.

they could still edit your role if you give them edit permissions.

but you could probably trigger on a handler to take care of that as well

add these to a plugin.

   public function UserController_BeforeUserEdit_Handler($Sender) {
      if($Sender->User->UserID == "6")
         trigger_error(ErrorMessage("You cannot Edit the user:" . $Sender->User->UserID . " Permission Denied"), E_USER_ERROR);

    }


    public function UserController_BeforeUserDelete_Handler($Sender) {
      if($Sender->User->UserID == "6")
         trigger_error(ErrorMessage("You cannot delete the user:" . $Sender->User->UserID . " Permission Denied"), E_USER_ERROR);

    }

Best to stick with Moderators you can trust.

By the way, they could see a user list with

http://vanillaforums.org/addon/memberslistenh-plugin

Cool! Thanks. One question. How do you know what each users number is? It does not show that in the user properties box when you go to "edit" a user, nor does it show when you view a users profile.

peregrine

Cool! Thanks. One question. How do you know what each users number is?

an easy way is to hover over the users name or click on the users profile.

http://vanillaforums.org/profile/56931/pcchenard

or right click on a users name - it will show a number in front of the users name in the url - that is the userid.

you can also load the http://vanillaforums.org/addon/memberslistenh-plugin

and it will show as well in the userid column.

or use phpmyadmin and look at the user table.

pcchenard

@peregrine said:

I loaded the memberslistenh plugin and configured which rows I want see, but I don't see a link anywhere on the site or in the dashboard to actually pull up the list. Am I missing something?

peregrine

@pcchenard said:
I loaded the memberslistenh plugin and configured which rows I want see, but I don't see a link anywhere on the site or in the dashboard to actually pull up the list. Am I missing something?

An entirely different question from your Opening Title demands a new discussion.

• this helps other people.
• not trying to make it difficult for you.
• Trying to make it easier for people who have the same question or issues later in the future.

please read:

some info on Asking Questions - that may prove useful. (to help us help you).

http://vanillaforums.org/discussion/18015/how-to-ask-questions-on-the-internet

http://vanillaforums.org/discussion/23130/forum-post-ettikett-etiquette

http://vanillaforums.org/discussion/25115/how-to-how-can-a-new-user-better-help-the-community-

http://vanillaforums.org/discussion/17954/food-for-thought-forum-etiquette

http://vanillaforums.org/discussion/23483/advice-for-all-those-just-starting-out-with-vanilla

http://vanillaforums.org/addon/memberslistenh-plugin

go to the plugin you have a question about. choose ask question.

although the question you have is probably already answered in the comments and the Tip

Also, before using a plugin, I personally try to read all the other comments related to the plugin, it usually helps me, I recommend that to everyone.

• Before Installing a plugin
• read the description
• read the readme
• AND read the associated discussions listed in the add-ons section of the plugin

these may help you.

pcchenard

You brought up the use of the plugin in this discussion not me, so any discussion related to that plugin is entirely relevant to this discussion. But I understand what you are saying.

peregrine

@pcchenard said:
You brought up the use of the plugin in this discussion not me, so any discussion related to that plugin is entirely relevant to this discussion. But I understand what you are saying.

i'm glad we understand each other

and you are welcome in advance if any information provided to you proved insightful.