The new hosting at MediaTemple sounds like it's gonna be sweet.

c-unit

http://avalonstar.com/2006/10/10/the-future-of-hosting-now/ Looks pretty sick to me. I'll prolly switch if it's reasonable.

MySchizoBuddy

MediaTemple is high end hosting. they are damn good, but u gotta pay for all the goodness. MediaTemple = 2Gb with 1TB bandwidth = $7.95 1and1 = 200Gb with 2Tb bandwidth = $7.95 thats quite a difference

Krak

Who honestly needs 200Gb in hosting. Stuff like that always sounds fishy, there is no way a company can offer that much space for 7 bucks. As well as the classic "unlimited" claims. 2Gb is on the average plenty for your average web site. You would have to be using it for mad storage to kill that much web space.

As always, you get what you pay for.

MySchizoBuddy

well i use it to share movies and music :) so i use up that space. plus 200gb doesn't mean they allocate 200gb per person. its the max that can be allocatted. the unlimitted claims are bogus for sure though. but not if ur going for a podcast specifc companies. they give u like 250MB, yes MB, but with unlimitted bandwidth. they charge u more for storage but not for bandwidth. for medium size website 2Gb is plenty of storage. but i use it for much more. my music library itself is 10GB, not to mention my movies and my backup for my MAC. I can't possibly survive on 2GB. another imp thing is how many databases and what size do u get.

redux

In large hosting, storage costs nothing, the bandwidth does. Especially premium bandwidth. In essence, the better conected they are, the more it will cost you. huge and high performance servers are a long layout cost. Anyone can get peering connections on the cheap and be a hosting company. Obtaining high quality and stable speed transits is very costly indeed. To clarify, a transit is a guaranteed connection straight into a major backbone ISP (cable/phone company or bandwidth provider company). Peering is the interconnects between these compaies, nodes which mesh nationally between big networks but which are not guaranteed (bandwidth or availability) If considering a major project of any significant commercial application, It is important to be informed of 1) the connectivity or 2) the ISP level of the Host. (upon obtaining a certain level of connectivity, redundancy and of course alot of official peperwork and certification, a host can actually become an 'ISP'. These are the hosts to seek. Anything else is an educated gamble based on reputation/price) Sorry for the long post but I figured there are enough professionals(or soon to be) here that might benefit from the info :)

robb

MediaTemple has got to be the most overpriced and unreliable hosting I've ever tried. Their support system is great, but servers go out for reasons that should not happen (i.e. power outage) and I'm very suspicious of their equipment setup. Don't get sucked in to MT hype.

aloicious

Most cheap providers 'oversell', assuming that not all users will use all of their allocation of storage or traffic. In fact, most websites will barely ever utilise more than 10% of their allowance.

3stripe

True. I'm still wondering what to do with my Dreamhost space which has just increased to 200GB (although might setup some automatic hard drive backups metinks)

robb

Dreamhost also has teh suck, or so I hear.

I've been thinking of switching from my current host (1and1) to one that has been rated on Realmetrics.com, a site that keeps updated stats on things like speed and uptime.

garvin

What is bad about 1&1? I use them and haven't experienced any issues. Plus, their domains are real cheap, which is nice, as I have quite a few.

robb

I've been a member for 2 weeks and their control panel has been down sporadically more than a few times. Also, sometimes my site is down or slow. I blame it on their sluggish msql database. A bit of a minor thing:

when I login via SSH, their version of unzip is broken. It doesn't preserve case when unzipping .zip files! Unbelievable. I had to download another unzip binary from freshmeat.

garvin

Ah, you're doing a bit more then I am. I'm pretty simple: use FTP, use email, use mySQL dbs. Haven't had any major issues. It was a huge improvement over doteasy.

robb

I guess I can't complain too much. It is cheap, and not too too slow. Definitely slower than phpwebhosting, godaddy, and mediatemple though.

dan39

MediaTemple, Dreamhost, iPowerWeb, BroadSpire, and even MySpace have a lot of their servers located inside "The Garland Building" data center in downtown LA. The fact that Media Temple and Dreamhost (and others in that building) have had serious downtime issues is mostly due to the problems that plague that building.

A lot of these companies would love to get out of that building if it were possible. It sounds like Media Temple's new GS service will not be in The Garland Building.

Dreamhost has published two long and detailed posts about the problems with that building:
Anatomy of an ongoing disaster Part 1
Anatomy of an ongoing disaster Part 2

robb

Thanks for the info dan

MySchizoBuddy

the author of cssreboot,was very furious with dreamhost, cause they shut down his site when he was receiving too much traffic. Sadly all hosting comanies will do that, even godaddy did that to maccast podcast. this new GS server that MT is making is cluster based, and hence it will shift resources to ur site if there is a sudden burst of traffic rather than shutting it down. They also said they will be increasing bandwidth and storage requirements when GS server is launcehd. I have 1and1.com and i hardly ever visit the control panel. once i set up my blog, i have rarely logged in the control panel.

Minisweeper

"the author of cssreboot,was very furious with dreamhost, cause they shut down his site when he was receiving too much traffic. Sadly all hosting comanies will do that, even godaddy did that to maccast podcast. " End user hosting will almost undoubtedly be governed my a fair/acceptable use policy just as many many other services (internet access for one) are. It surely should have been no surprise to him that if his site was recieving such an amount of traffic as to be 'unfair' to the rest of the users on the server his account would be (temporarily, i assume) disabled. And on a similar note to Dans post, since (as far as i know) MT dont run their own datacentres, the power outages were almost certainly out of their control (I'm too lazy/busy to read the articles, though) so you cant *really* blame them for the issues, though presumably this was an issue they themselves took up with the appropriate authoritative figures. It's not a situation I know a great deal about (since I tend to be more bothered about issues with UK datacentres which may affect me) but I would imagine in general terms the problems will be very similar and generally have little to do with specific hosting companies (except those, ofcourse, who run their own DC's)

dan39

Media Temple's Grid Server is now live: http://mediatemple.net/

MySchizoBuddy

they upped the storage. and price.$20/month is too much can anyone verify that MT allows u to install any blog, forum or cms on it plus how many database do i get and what size

Minisweeper

Who the hell needs 100gig storage as standard? You couldnt even upload that in a month on most uk connections..

bjrn

I guess it's really handy if you are a reseller of some sort? By the way, is there anyone else who thought "The last hosting plan you'll ever need" sounds a lot like "This hosting package is really the last thing you need" (as in: you don't want this)? And since this discussion is kind of a "this is what I am using" discussion: I have a bit of nearlyfreespeach.net hosting, which is costing me $1/GB transfer and $0.01/MB storage/Month. Which isn't bad, I find. Realiability's been okay, there have been a few times that the sites have lagged a bit, but overall it's good. I think they do (or did) the hosting for bugmenot.