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  • So wanderer, just out of interest, since I've always been disappointed at my lack of creativity, do you *seriously* think that if I bought a mac i'd become more creative? Really? Serious question.
  • blizeH: I found this site when I googled.
  • dan39dan39 New
    edited October 2006
    Think of it like this... Would a painter produce better works of art in an office or in a studio? office = pc studio = mac
  • Marc and Jazzman are two pc men. Their themes and style are not too bad.
  • dan39dan39 New
    edited October 2006
    To continune the analogy. I'm not saying the painter who chooses to do his work in the office produces poor works of art. I'm just saying their work might improve if they were to work in a studio. Same person... just a different "environement" I mean, you have to admit. There's a reason why artists prefer to work in studios instead of offices, no? The work environement matters. You guys should check out the Apple profiles of artists who prefer Macs (and why): http://www.apple.com/pro/profiles/
  • edited October 2006
    Bullshit.

    Is there a correlation between good web designers and Mac users? Sure, but that doesn't mean that using a Mac makes you a better designer, any more than driving a Rolls Royce will make you rich.

    Web design doesn't happen on a computer. Web design happens in your head.

    The computer barely matters, let alone what operating system it's running.
  •  Quote: Minisweeper  So wanderer, just out of interest, since I've always been disappointed at my lack of creativity, do you *seriously* think that if I bought a mac i'd become more creative? Really? Serious question.

    Mini, you are all missing the point, you too Bergamot. I never said using a Mac made you a better designer.

    A creative person would never prefer a PC with Windows to a Mac with OS X.

    It's an attitude thing. A creative, thinking, person would never submit to the drone mentality of Windows, they would never conform to beige boxes. Windows makes YOU fit its way of doing things in a grey dull world, Mac and OSX set you free, it's open not closed, it's colourful not grey, it encourages being different not being the same.

    As dan39 says, check out the list of artists, photographers, musicians... using Macs. Those that started their careers using PCs soon changed over once they saw the light.

    Really guys, give Mac a go, really look at it for your next purchase, I guarantee you will never look back. And it's not like you have to let go of your security blanket, a new Mac will run your Windows apps until you make the change.

    The war is over, the winner is clear.
  • Wanderer:

    I'm a Mac user at home, and have used Windows extensively at work. I prefer Mac and think it's more imaginative, but I can't see the difference is as great as you say. Phrases like "beige boxes" and "drone mentality" sound like Apple advertising copy, don't really mean very much, and the latter is quite insulting to people who use PCs. Overstatement turns people off - I used to do it too. I think you have been treated more sensitively on this forum than you would be most other places. Why not wax lyrical about the joys of Mac without putting other people down??

    Thanks.
  • dan39dan39 New
    edited October 2006
    The computer barely matters??
  • I just wanted to learn how to create some unobtrusive graphics for a web layout. I recently purchased a Mac and thought I would get some suggestions / tutorials / etc... The Mac / PC debate is old-school.... what can you really say? Yes, Macs are great. I am new to it and I am really enjoying it. Ultimately, it is your skills that make the site. Both PCs and Macs have the softwares to make it all happen.
  • Ah, nothing quite as cringeworthy as a Mac fanboy rant eh?
  •  Quote: ercatli  Why not wax lyrical about the joys of Mac without putting other people down?
    Fair enough, but in my experience, Windows users (by choice) are dull and boring, without exception, again in my experience, mostly because they seem to accept their surroundings and the inferior tools often foisted on them.
    That experience may not mean much to some but 12 years dealing with 8-10 people per week must say something.

    In any case, I was not intending to offend, just taking part in friendly banter.
    It seems that not only are they boring and dull but easily offended too.

    On that note, I'll pull my head in and go back to writing the editorial for my next podcast. pic
  • So... Wanderer. If you really didn't mean to offend, proofreading your posts might help in the future. Reading your own posts might be helpful in any case, it'll show you that just because you've written "I never said using a Mac made you a better designer.", doesn't make it so. HTH HAND!
    </rant>
  • Don't see your point bjrn,
    I stand behind everything I said, I did not make it so, don't shoot the messenger.

    I took a friend to an Apple retailer today to see the new iMacs running Windows under Parallels.

    While he was impressed, I couldn't help but laugh to myself at what some of the other customers were saying.

    Obviously the Apple TV ads are making an impact. Bits and pieces of conversations included...

    "...wow just think, no more viruses or spyware..."
    "...my son has been asking for one so he can do the youth group's newsletter..."
    "...just look at how clear those screens are..."
    "...I've never seen a video chat like that before, where's the camera..."
    "...dual core with a gig of RAM at that price? How do they do it"
    "...was GarageBand already open or did it really launch in two bounces?"
  • 3stripe3stripe ✭✭
    edited November 2006
    I can't even be bothered getting inbolved on this thread any more. I did have a good point to make though. Ach!
  • blizeHblizeH ✭✭
    edited November 2006
    // edit - it's not worth the hassle.
  • dan39dan39 New
    edited November 2006
    There's probably no point in trying to convince the masses of which compuer is better. Everyone definitely has their preference. I can respect that. Back to web design. Litbynature, I finally dug into my bookmarks and found my lists of the world's top (or most outspoken/visible) front-end web designers and their sites for you. Many have written books, or spoken at major web conferences. Some of them have great tutorials (Veerle's blog probably has the most Adobe-related tutorials). But all of them have terrific words of wisdom and tips for a budding designer. The list is of the most well-respected or top front-end designers who practice XHTML/CSS Web Standards for their designs — which widely considered to be the highest quality of web design. It's worth mentioning that each of these individuals use Macs to create their sites. I'm sure that's just a coincidence, though... Jeffery Zeldman - http://zeldman.com Shaun Inman - http://shauninman.com Jason Santa Maria - http://jasonsantamaria.com Cameron Moll - http://cameronmoll.com Andy Budd - http://andybudd.com Kevin Cornell - http://bearskinrug.co.uk Jon Hicks - http://hicksdesign.co.uk Dan Cederholm - http://simplebits.com Jim Coudal - http://coudal.com Veerle Pieters - http://veerle.duoh.com Greg Storey - http://airbagindustries.com Jason Kottke - http://kottke.org Douglas Bowman - http://stopdesign.com Mike Davidson - http://mikeindustries.com Also, here are some other good websites about web design: UX Magazine - http://uxmag.com Stylegala - http://stylegala.com And all that malarky - http://stuffandnonsense.co.uk Design Meltdown - http://designmeltdown.com A List Apart - http://alistapart.com
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