What is that Minty taste?

Kosmo

I'd like something teamware thingy that is fast and easy to use. The current ones are just so heavy and almost completely useless and ugly.

nathan

teamware? what do you mean?

3stripe

that is some tasty looking eye candy for sure! not sure how easy it will be to persuade my boss to shell out for more webstats though :( ps. teamware. is that like, really big clothes, that groups of people can wear together?

Kosmo

Teamware is a buzzword from the 80s and early 90s, it's basically a compilation of programs that helps people work better together. Project management, calendars, messaging, sometimes e-mail, contact list and all that shit. Kinda like Basecamp.

nathan

ah... then a big +1 for this. Mark... get to it!! :P

3stripe

"Kinda like Basecamp."

The attitude of 37signals on their forum is starting to grate with me a little....

ichigo

Kosmo: http://chalk.it

Kosmo

What I really want is a teamware with a modular construct. Just a base with few functions, like extension manager, user manager and calendar, maybe messaging system, then rest of the program is done with modules and extensions. This way I could tailor the software for the needs of my company/group/whatever.

nathan

is chalk free? it does not look like it which is a shame. Mint and chalk would be great if they were gpl. I would not hesitate donating money to the develoeprs if I used their product. EVERYTHING should be free in this industry.

Mark

EVERYTHING should be free in this industry.

I don't know about that. My new service will not be free - you'll have to pay a monthly fee to use it - but you will make money through it, so it all works out in the end.

However, any application that isn't used directly for making money (I believe) should be free. I still have plans for making a blogging tool with a vanilla-style framework, and I have spec'd out plans on another tool that you will all love. Both of *those* will be free.

I'm walking a fine line on that whole "making money" issue. I do believe that advertising like adsense works, but I don't believe that it is the right way to make money for _me_.

Oh, and mini: I don't know what you think it is, but it's not that - this idea is new.

Kosmo

Mark, if you need help figuring out elements and thingies for your Blog Engine, I might be something of a help, I have seen alot of blogs and used alot of different engines while I have been involved in webdesign.

lament

I just got into short stat mid-August, and was excited for this.

but you can't really see anything in the demo other than dragging and dropping and resizing. wtf?

I'm pushing for reinvigorate's new incarnation.. and I'm hoping it's free.

Mark

Kosmo - I'm thinking that the Lussumo blog will be absolutely the most simple blog you can imagine: Snippet text, full body text, formatters (like Vanilla), tags, and comments. Everything after that will be done with extensions.

Ben

I feel like making a Vanilla style based on Mint....

Minisweeper

mark, dont you remember telling me about your latest big idea earlier this week?

Kosmo

Mark, maybe you could at some point make this all in to a CMS or something, make all these separate programs the possibility to connect to each other, Vanilla would be cool comment system, just make it somehow show the post on top of the page and list of recent posts show on the sidepanel (maybe an option you could activate using a modular template system like what WP has), and possibility to add galleries using Filebrowser. Hmm.. it sould so good that I'm getting excited, uuh.. sweet, when you do the blog, I'm going to change to that :P Dammit you Mark and your great ideas!

Mark

:)

rYno

all Mint is - is a glorified awstats... just add cool design and ajax... and POOF! not worth $30 unless you just MUST have the coolest looking log files on the block.

the aloha

and of course everyone cares and must know the stats for your website, therefore you would have to share your mint to let everyone know you have an extra $30. vanilla totally deserved the hype it got and deserves more. mint does not the hype it already has gotten. even though mr. inman is a good designer, i think the glitterati (as much as there is one for web geeks) sometimes blinds people on the internet. i mean, say if joshua davis did awstats in flash, you would not be able to escape it for a week in realtime. people would be all over how "cool" it looks and how "choatic" the background design would be.

giginger

I have mint installed and I'm liking it.

I have the logging tool from my provider but if i want quick access to general visitor stats then I look at mint. It's quick and simple. I didn't expect anything more than I got.