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We Want Your Input on Vanilla 1.2

SubJunkSubJunk ✭✭
edited November 2009 in Vanilla 1.0 Help
Vanilla 1.2 is going to be a great, significant release. There will be plenty of new features, many of which will be included as new extensions, allowing them to be easily disabled and enabled easily.


Some new features are:

Automatic image width reduction by window size (an upcoming update to HTML Formatter), a feature similar to the one on IP.Board, so that images never create horizontal scrollbars on the page; images will either be too small in width to be sized, or the width will be reduced to the perfect size.

Minification, compression, and a bunch of other speed optimizations (an upcoming extension called Minify) to make the forums load faster for users, especially first-time users.

Whisper notifications (the Whisperfi extension) so that users don't miss whispers



Some will be enabled by default, others won't be. So we want to know, which extensions (if any) do you think add essential functionality to Vanilla 1? There are so many really awesome extensions out there, but we don't want to include most of them, just the ones that add a very commonly used functionality, ones that will be useful for 90% of Vanilla installations.
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  • TudorTudor
    edited November 2009
    1. Attachments

    2. A system of permissions for categories

    3. Quoting

    4. Comments permalinks

    5. Polls
  • About 1. from @Tudor. I've got a small update of the extension by Jazzman, to add a counter of download. I can provide it so you can enhance it for vanilla 1.2 if you like.

    Because it was done when I had absolutely no knowledge of php (not that it had greatly improved since :)).

    About extensions for 1.2, I'd say:

    Attachments

    Quoting

    Comments permalinks

    Account Pictures


  • 1. Category ordering and permissions.
    2. Notification that work.
    3. Session in database.
    4. Poll.
  • edited November 2009
    We will only include extensions that are stable and maintained, and that follow the best practices. The maintainer will have commit permission.

    If an extension you want included needs some love, please fork it and fix it.
  • pbearpbear New
    edited November 2009
    1. Attachments
    2. Quoting
    3. Polls
    4. Calendar/Events (for v1.3? :) )
    I always end up adding some kind of custom header via Mark's Lussumo Banner. And PageMgr custom pages (e.g. "About this forum" info I find better in a tab than requiring some perpetual sticky post; Contact gets its own page and form where there's no anonymous posting; etc.). I don't know how essential those are for anyone else.

    edit: dang grammar
  • Let me add: easy insertion of YouTube/Vimeo/et al. such that you don't need HTML formatting enabled to do it.
  • More prepkg'd extensions would be nice. But I would prefer more work being done to finalize and refine the codebase. I would also like pagelist and sqlbuilder components to be more robust, as in ability for sqlbuilder to do nested selects, and for pagelist to be able to exist multiple times on one page. I would also like to see an established method for creating custom root .php pages, and a basic set of base classes to build extensions from, like manager/model classes and controls. The lack of standards with a lot of extensions is really alarming. AJAX support for extensions is also something that would be very beneficial for everyone. These base components are not hard to DIY, but it makes more sense to have a standard set. Most importantly, the documentation in the dokuwiki must expand to cover more than the 30% of Vanilla that it currently covers. I think for Vanilla 1 to keep going these issues must be addressed. Other than that, Vanilla 1 has been a mature product that is mostly very easy to work off of. Speaking of minify, has there been/will there be any solutions for caching the sql results?
  • Great input guys, thanks for your thoughts. Keep it coming :)
  • I'm not sure to understand why do you keep improving vanilla 1, when vanilla 2 is (suposed) to come up?
  • Attachments, Inline Images, Quoting, comment permalinking, Category Permissions.

    Also, a robust WYSIWYG editor to work well with HTML Formatter - this doesn't exist yet AFAIK.

    Does the Minify extension have anything to do with http://code.google.com/p/minify/ ?
  • SubJunkSubJunk ✭✭
    edited November 2009
    @Stash Yes, it is exactly that. There are some very cool improvements coming for Minify as well, the best of which is it will read the CSS/JS files straight from the HTTPd, which gets around the PHP overhead, making the file serving roughly 10x faster

    @glow Vanilla 1 and Vanilla 2 are very different, and some people might prefer to continue using Vanilla 1 instead of changing to Vanilla 2. Vanilla 2 isn't a replacement for Vanilla 1, it is just different. They will be developed alongside eachother.
  • Inline Images...

    ++

    (goes so naturally with Attachments I forgot to include it :)
  • These extensions I think should be considered to be packaged, although I'm not sure which of these are stable enough to be considered to be added. Also, some of these have been requested.

    • User Fields + Account Pictures
    • TagThis
    • Page Manager

    In addition I think it would be great if users could carry multiple roles. This I think would be able to grant a lot more flexibility, not really sure how it would slam the database though. As opposed to a hierarchy like unauth, member, mod, admin from least power to most power it's more like a bunch of skill sets. More of a symbiosis, which I think helps drive a community.
  • Brand new clean style :D
  • RSS feeds (feedthis) should be included.
  • all links open in new tab/page
  • edited December 2009
    Multiple file uploads

    View images inline

    Auto resize images
  • I hate when links open in new windows/tabs without me asking. That's what CTRL+click is for...
  • ^^^ yes. standards, please.
  • SubJunkSubJunk ✭✭
    edited December 2009
    @[-Stash-]: Middle-click too :)
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