Plugins do not appear in the Dashboard (plugin conflict?)

phreak

Hi all,

Simple questions. Recently (under 2.0.18.10), not alle plugins (even those made for 2.0+) do not appear in the plugin list of my dash.
I cleaned browser cache, reloaded the site, reuploaded the plugins and then ...

i deleted the deactivated "Discussion Polls" and everything worked again.

It seems like this plugin is conflicting with some others. Anyone who has a similar experience?
Any ghosts implemented @hgtonight?

scratchingMyHead

peregrine

Anyone who has a similar experience?

I've seen this happen with other plugins , that can could foul up loading in the dashboard especially if there is an error in the plugin code and you have the "faulty one" enabled.

A while back someone uploaded a bad plugin that caused this. Haven't seen this occur with Discussion Polls though.

phreak

Maybe the devils hidden somewhere else or in a combination, i'll keep watching.

hgtonight

I don't remember implementing any ghosts.

If you want to PM the list of plugins you had enabled, I will try reproducing the issue.

vrijvlinder

you could try :

$Configuration[Plugins][DiscussionPolls][heiliger Geist, löschen Ihren Fluch von diesem]=TRUE;

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Must say that I have seen this happen when people add stuff to the pockets plugin and did it wrong or forgot to close a tag.

phreak

It's proven and tested "@hgtonight is innocent".

The devils hides somewhere else. It feels like a strange caching mechanism that let's newly added plugins only appear in the plugin list, when another plugin gets deleted. Anybody knows about how the plugin listing internally works...?

Mmh, tried that @vrijvlinder. Maybe i'm believing in the wrong gods.

peregrine

show a screenshot of your problem.

vrijvlinder

I do know one thing, do not delete plugins from the dashboard...

phreak

@peregrine: Thank for being open to check it out. But i can't be shown in a screenshot.

1. I drop a plugin into ~/plugins/ (doublecheck if uploaded correctly)
2. Enter the Dashboards plugins to look for it there, it's not there
3. I delete any other plugin
4. Reload: The uploaded plugin appears

Strange uhm?

vrijvlinder

But i can't be shown in a screenshot.

I knew you were a vampir !!

Enter the Dashboards plugins to look for it there, it's not there

did you clear the caches all of them? ini etc

I delete any other plugin

How do you delete them? via dashboard or ftp ?

Reload: The uploaded plugin appears

Seems like a cache issue . Try disabling the cache in the browser. Empty the ini files in the forum cache every time you add or delete or edit a plugin.

hgtonight

Definitely sounds like a caching issue.

Do they reappear when you enable or disable a plugin? (Try reloading the page after you enable/disable).

phreak

Mmh, i'm not sure if it's a caching issue. As stated in the first post i usually clean browser cache and reload the plugin site several times. It used to work before so i guess it has more of something to do with a bugged extension i've not yet identified.

@vrijvlinder: Tried deleting via FTP and via plugins "Remove" buttons next to them in the list. As written above i think it's not the cache.

I'll keep watching it.

R_J

Could you try deleting two plugins, than upload one new? Maybe there is a limit of plugins that are shown and you are right at the edge. I know you have an unbelievable lot of plugins...

R_J

Oh, have you checked that the plugin is not there even if you look only at the disabled plugins?

phreak

@R_J: Yes i usually then double check the tab riders with active and inactive plugins. I will try your idea if there is "limit" of plugins.

vrijvlinder

Try Removing from the Dashboard by pressing the Remove button again if the plugin will not remove... NO! do not Remove Plugins from the Dashboard you risk erasing all of your plugins !!

R_J

I looked at the class.pluginmanager.php and could not see anything that would limit anything but there is some caching done.

@vrijvlinder said:
did you clear the caches all of them? ini etc

 

@phreak said:
Mmh, i'm not sure if it's a caching issue. As stated in the first post i usually clean browser cache

Have you also deleted the *.ini files in /cache like @vrijvlinder said? I would bet on that, too!

phreak

? I'm surely not that stupid @vrijvlinder. The problem is not removing, it's adding plugins.

vrijvlinder

I'm surely not that stupid

Never said you were, it has nothing to do with being stupid or smart, it is a serious bug that needs to be addressed.

peregrine

@vrijvlinder said:
Never said you were, it has nothing to do with being stupid or smart, it is a serious bug that needs to be addressed.

it is addressed in 2.1b2

vrijvlinder

Yes true, but phreak is using 2.0 so it could still happen to anyone using 2.0.