Thank you! I'm working on an update that will provide both a settings screen under the dashboard and a toggle to allow discussion authors to hide comments in their discussion - similarly to how it is done now per user, but this would be applied to the entire discussion, allowing authors to moderate their content. If you have any ideas, just drop me a line!
That sounds perfect, but I'd like to see that functionality extend even further. Admins/Mods able to hide content site-wide (in the areas they control, respectively) would be awesome.
I'll keep that feature in mind as I work on this update. One question - would you find it also useful to allow for the option to completely hide content for users instead of just "rolling it up" as it does now? I ask because of your suggestion for Admins and Mods to be able to hide content site-wide.
That was another part I plan on putting in once I define actual permissions and settings - to decide what level of user can view a hidden comment.
I think, in terms of moderation functionality, it might be nice to have a setting in roles as to whether users can expand mod-hidden comments. I'd say make it so that we can choose those roles individually, though this is starting to look like it might be a completely different plugin. lol
I doubt it will make to the core. Not that it isn't a great plugin, just it not in Vanilla's nature to include everything. If Vanilla was called Tuti-Fruti maybe. Vanilla is plugabble that is the whole point.
@x00, I simply meant that I'd like to see the ability to collapse comments in the core, not for a wider set of moderation tools as outlined above. We already have the ability to sink threads, so why not sink comments so to speak?
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x00, I simply meant that I'd like to see the ability to collapse comments in the core, not for a wider set of moderation tools as outlined above. We already have the ability to sink threads, so why not sink comments so to speak?
BTW there is alread a voting pluign which can reorder the comment stackoverflow style. Sinking comments makes no sense becuase comments are added to the end anyway.
Also, thank you for taking the time to thank a contributor!
It's a rare enough event that it gets noticed... (yes, I'm talking to you lurkers - think of one thing someone has added to Vanilla that you use and like, and come on and say thank you to them. )
@whu606 Regardless of whatever his intentions may have been, and whatever each user considers "clutter", some ideas obviously do make it in to the core or there wouldn't be any extended functionality beyond creating accounts and the basic post/comment system in the initial install of Vanilla. As is, a select group of plugins is included and each user can choose whether or not to enable them, while a great deal of functionality we take for granted is integrated fully.
Activity stream, for instance, could be a plugin available in the add-ons category. I personally don't think it's useful in the core. Profiles, even the most basic of which, could be extraneous. What about post editing functionality? User approval? Extended role management? All available in the core.
At any rate, as a community Vanilla should never be summarily dismissive of any idea that could potentially garner more widespread acceptance of the project as a whole.
For what it is worth @agcyphers, there is a moderation plugin that is hosted only right now that does something quite similar to what you are asking for. In the future, that code might be made open source.
I apologize for my inactivity here over the last week - I had an unexpected visitor for Memorial Day weekend. I want to reiterate what @whu606 said - thank you so much for your feedback @agcyphers! As I mentioned, you've given me some new life here. I used to do a lot of work for MUDs about a decade ago, and I left after a lot of that work went either unnoticed or used without any credit. I really enjoy programming, as it's almost like an art form - you see something in your mind and you work to make it reality, much like a painter might do with oils and a canvas.
Anyway, I appreciate the nod for core support, but I do have to agree with what was said about keeping the core "clutter-free". In fact, I feel the core comes with a little too much clutter the way it is. That said, I do think that Vanilla could use a better way to handle plug-ins. The directory isn't the most friendly when it comes to finding what you want and support is sometimes questionable. This might be a good point to raise in the proper forum though. I think if it were easier to find the functionality you wanted, the core wouldn't need to include much at all.
Now for the update for this plugin: Roles and permissions were one of the things I had outlined for the next version. I had to hack together the ability to prevent users from hiding comments from users with certain roles, but I wasn't satisfied with how I did that. I'm not a fan of "quick hacks", but I had already released the plugin before I realized it was overlooked. The next version will be more robust in terms of control.
Lastly, have you noticed any bugs with this plugin? I did notice an issue with the included theme. As I mentioned in the updated plugin description, the patch to global.js fixes some of it. There was also an issue where guests could see the option, but with how it works, there's no user data to save the preference to. I'm just curious so I can squash bugs as I work on the update.
Thanks, Jonathon. No, I haven't noticed any bugs, and none have been reported within my community. I'll update to the latest sometime this weekend and get back to you as soon as I've played with it. Thanks a bunch for the quick update!
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Thank you! I'm working on an update that will provide both a settings screen under the dashboard and a toggle to allow discussion authors to hide comments in their discussion - similarly to how it is done now per user, but this would be applied to the entire discussion, allowing authors to moderate their content. If you have any ideas, just drop me a line!
That sounds perfect, but I'd like to see that functionality extend even further. Admins/Mods able to hide content site-wide (in the areas they control, respectively) would be awesome.
I'll keep that feature in mind as I work on this update. One question - would you find it also useful to allow for the option to completely hide content for users instead of just "rolling it up" as it does now? I ask because of your suggestion for Admins and Mods to be able to hide content site-wide.
That was another part I plan on putting in once I define actual permissions and settings - to decide what level of user can view a hidden comment.
I think, in terms of moderation functionality, it might be nice to have a setting in roles as to whether users can expand mod-hidden comments. I'd say make it so that we can choose those roles individually, though this is starting to look like it might be a completely different plugin. lol
I doubt it will make to the core. Not that it isn't a great plugin, just it not in Vanilla's nature to include everything. If Vanilla was called Tuti-Fruti maybe. Vanilla is plugabble that is the whole point.
grep is your friend.
@x00, I simply meant that I'd like to see the ability to collapse comments in the core, not for a wider set of moderation tools as outlined above. We already have the ability to sink threads, so why not sink comments so to speak?
Becuase ideas are a dime a dozen.
grep is your friend.
BTW there is alread a voting pluign which can reorder the comment stackoverflow style. Sinking comments makes no sense becuase comments are added to the end anyway.
grep is your friend.
Mine was just another one.
Jonathon, would you please message me PayPal info so that I may make a donation?
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I don't think x00 was trying to be personally critical, but making precisely your point.
You have an idea about what it would be good to add to the core, but then, so do tons of other people.
The Vanilla model is to be uncluttered and out of the box functional, with the ability to extend easily via themes and plugins.
That way, everyone gets their forum set up the way they want, and the developers focus on making the core as good as possible.
Also, thank you for taking the time to thank a contributor!
It's a rare enough event that it gets noticed... (yes, I'm talking to you lurkers - think of one thing someone has added to Vanilla that you use and like, and come on and say thank you to them. )
@whu606 Regardless of whatever his intentions may have been, and whatever each user considers "clutter", some ideas obviously do make it in to the core or there wouldn't be any extended functionality beyond creating accounts and the basic post/comment system in the initial install of Vanilla. As is, a select group of plugins is included and each user can choose whether or not to enable them, while a great deal of functionality we take for granted is integrated fully.
Activity stream, for instance, could be a plugin available in the add-ons category. I personally don't think it's useful in the core. Profiles, even the most basic of which, could be extraneous. What about post editing functionality? User approval? Extended role management? All available in the core.
At any rate, as a community Vanilla should never be summarily dismissive of any idea that could potentially garner more widespread acceptance of the project as a whole.
Thank you for chiming in, @whu606
For what it is worth @agcyphers, there is a moderation plugin that is hosted only right now that does something quite similar to what you are asking for. In the future, that code might be made open source.
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I apologize for my inactivity here over the last week - I had an unexpected visitor for Memorial Day weekend. I want to reiterate what @whu606 said - thank you so much for your feedback @agcyphers! As I mentioned, you've given me some new life here. I used to do a lot of work for MUDs about a decade ago, and I left after a lot of that work went either unnoticed or used without any credit. I really enjoy programming, as it's almost like an art form - you see something in your mind and you work to make it reality, much like a painter might do with oils and a canvas.
Anyway, I appreciate the nod for core support, but I do have to agree with what was said about keeping the core "clutter-free". In fact, I feel the core comes with a little too much clutter the way it is. That said, I do think that Vanilla could use a better way to handle plug-ins. The directory isn't the most friendly when it comes to finding what you want and support is sometimes questionable. This might be a good point to raise in the proper forum though. I think if it were easier to find the functionality you wanted, the core wouldn't need to include much at all.
Now for the update for this plugin: Roles and permissions were one of the things I had outlined for the next version. I had to hack together the ability to prevent users from hiding comments from users with certain roles, but I wasn't satisfied with how I did that. I'm not a fan of "quick hacks", but I had already released the plugin before I realized it was overlooked. The next version will be more robust in terms of control.
Lastly, have you noticed any bugs with this plugin? I did notice an issue with the included theme. As I mentioned in the updated plugin description, the patch to
global.jsfixes some of it. There was also an issue where guests could see the option, but with how it works, there's no user data to save the preference to. I'm just curious so I can squash bugs as I work on the update.Thank you again!
The addons repo redesign has been under consideration for some time. I think. There is just many aspects to it
grep is your friend.
The addons repo has been made public and is slowly getting better.
Check out the https://github.com/vanilla/community/issues repo for more info/submitting ideas/pr.
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Thanks, Jonathon. No, I haven't noticed any bugs, and none have been reported within my community. I'll update to the latest sometime this weekend and get back to you as soon as I've played with it. Thanks a bunch for the quick update!