Proper (meaning valid and semantic) Markup and CSS, Please.

mattisfrommars

Quick question: How are you planning on marking up? E.g. for the index what xhtml are you using?

lech

hrmm, appears we have a internal server error going on at http://nickpresta.ath.cx/ :/

nick1presta

Grrr. I overwrited my .htaccess file last night before I went to bed but I forgot to escape soemthing withing the file for converting www.nickpresta.ath.cx to http://nickpresta.ath.cx It'll be up around 4:30est.

lech

no prob, nick, just wanted to poke in and check progress :D

Jan

Hi all!

Just wanted to point out that while visiting Vanilla using Opera Mini on my mobile I noticed that the source order is somewhat unpractical. I had to scroll down a whole bit to find the discussion topics. I know that changing the source order can be a challenge, but another easier solution to this "problem" could be to simple add somethig like this to the top of the page:

<ul> <li><a href="#discussion-topics">Skip to discussion topics</a></li> <li><a href="#panel">Skip to panel</a></li> </ul>

This way one can jump directly to the actual content of the forum. What do you guys think?

lech

Hmmm, curious, did your mobile device select from the default global, or from the handheld css files, jan?

Mark

I haven't looked at that handheld css in a long time. It probably needs work - but I'm waiting for the xhtml from nick (or anyone else) for the time being...

Jan

@Lech: Yes, Opera Mini selected the handheld styles by default. In my opinion it worked and looked very well, apart from the un-necessary scrolling. You guys should really try out Opera Mini - much better than the built-in browser on my Nokia.

Minisweeper

I must add at this point that when i used the site on my handheld (3.7" vga screen) the css worked excellently (well sized and whatnot). Havent and wouldnt particularly want to try it on my phone, though.

Bergamot

I'm thinking this is going to be a while...

lech

That Opera Mini site is a bit creepy, however I guess that it's useful on handheld devices providing your handheld's screen has a decent resolution above 160x160px. I'm tempted to tackle this one myself if nick holds out any longer :)

Mark

It looks like absolutely no progress has been made in a while. I'm thinking I'll just have another go at it myself unless someone else steps up to plate.

lech

colab?

Mark

I'm up for it.

Seriously. If someone will just throw together the xhtml they think is semantically correct, we can start from scratch with the css. I want to ditch the css we've got right now, anyway.

If no-one steps up, I'm going to try to use what Andy gave us on page 2.

Bergamot

Mark: while I like his discussion list markup, I do not think his use of blockquote and cite in the comment page are appropriate.

Mark

Do you want to do a different version of the comment page, bergamot? Does anyone want to tackle the joy of profile/settings forms?

giginger

I would put myself forward but I couldn't do it in a good timeframe.

In other words; I'd like to help but I don't have the necessary abilities.

timberford

right i am going to have another go at installing 0.9.3 and getting this done.

timberford

ok i had a look at ammending the existing templates in 0.9.3 and unfortunately i dont think my php are quite up to scratch enough to go tinkering in there. so i've done as you suggested mark and thrown together the flat xhtml for the discussions page... http://www.paulsturgess.co.uk/vanilla/discussions.htm is that any good to you? i can get going on the others.

timberford

http://www.paulsturgess.co.uk/vanilla/comments.htm this file just contains the #content_main section that would drop into the discussions page i did. essentially discussions.htm is the template for the main layout of the forum.