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Proper (meaning valid and semantic) Markup and CSS, Please.

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  • aloiciousaloicious
    We're all bitches! Especially everyone who isn't me.
  • mattisfrommarsmattisfrommars
    i agree, school and famly should take priority. It just sucks that he took on such a big project (with so many people breathing down his neck) when he doesn't have time or space in his life to make it. I think it's time to pass the torch (that's assuming it's not a she)
  • MarkMark Vanilla Staff
    He shouldn't be sweating. I'm not expecting him to deliver the final product. As I mentioned, I got a bunch of emails over the weekend, and I'm working on putting them all together and coming up with something good.
  • lechlech ✭
    woohoo?
  • chrischris
    yes, woohoo!
  • ithcyithcy New
    edited February 2006
    Deal with it and stop bitching

    oh spookyET, you so crazy
  • gigingergiginger New
    image

    Before people think I'm mad. That is a reference to waht ithcy said.
  • BergamotBergamot
    woohoo!
  • lechlech ✭
    edited February 2006
    I honestly can't tell if that's an ugly woman, or a guy wearing a dress. Ok, that's just a really bad outfit.

    *lech claws his eyes out post-haste.
  • FLCFLC New
    oh lech... c'mon feel the noize
  • gigingergiginger New
    Because mama, we're all crazy now!
  • FelipeFelipe
    I'm with Bergamot too for the <h3> thing. But I'd surround them with an <ul> : an Ordered List would associate "numbers" to a list of topics which order would be changing refresh after refresh (exception: sticky) and that sounds confusing to me. The #1 topic (after sticky ones) will be the last one where a comment was added. And it's never the same.
  • nick1prestanick1presta
    Yes, sorry guys (and girls, if they exist). School has been beating me senseless as I have to put together DB structure and prototype a CMS by friday. Not too difficult but there are a million other things I have to do.
  • c-unitc-unit
    What are "girls"?
  • BergamotBergamot
    edited February 2006
    I'm with Bergamot too for the h3 thing.
    But I'd surround them with a ul : an Ordered List would associate "numbers" to a list of topics which order would be changing refresh after refresh (exception: sticky) and that sounds confusing to me.

    The #1 topic (after sticky ones) will be the last one where a comment was added. And it's never the same.
    Yeah, but they are ordered: first by stickyness, then by date. Just because the order may change in the future doesn't mean they can't be numbered now.

    And at the bottom of the page, it says "101 to 150 of 352" or whatever, so the numbers would go from 101 to 150.
  • andyandy New
    Bergamot 3 days ago
    Mark: while I like his discussion list markup, I do not think his use of blockquote and cite in the comment page are appropriate.

    Well there's a semantic logic to using those tags.
    ... there is a much better way of marking up dialogues [sic], and that is with a sequence of blockquote and cite elements which are specifically there for marking up quotations. What is the documentation of a dialog if not a sequence of quotations? You could even place them in an ordered list to emphasize the fact that you are capturing the specific order that things were said in the dialog.

    Tantek Celik commenting on SimpleQuiz Part II (last comment on the page)
    Also, I feel the numbering of the ordered list is simply the default rendering in a browser and its underling semantic meaning is what's important.
  • BergamotBergamot
    edited February 2006
    andy: A blockquote is meant to be used to indicate that part of a larger document was not written by the author of the rest, but merely references a portion of another document. Forum posts are not references to other documents, and forum threads do not have primary authors. I know you understand this, because you used a blockquote in your post for exactly this purpose.

    I'm beginning to really doubt the philosophy that, whenever you encounter a need for a tag that doesn't exist, you should shoehorn it into an existing tag with a vaguely similar meaning. At best, this does nothing but dilute the meaning of the tags we have.

    In this case, the only information we can derive from your use of the blockquote tag is that the post was written by a person. Of course, so was every other piece of text on the internet, so the blockquote becomes just a fancy way to avoid divs, just like divs used to be a fancy way of avoiding tables.

    We, as markup authors, need to be able to suck it up and admit that the HTML spec is not all-encompassing, that the tag we need may be outside the scope of the spec, and that it's perfectly alright to use a div when nothing else works.

    And while the default rendering of a tag may not be as important as the semantic meaning of the tag (and I agree that it is not), that doesn't mean that default renderings are entirely unimportant; they may be all the user gets.
  • andyandy New
    I think you're right, it is a bit of a stretch, and we're dangerously close to debating how many angels fit on the head of a pin with this case.

    I just liked what Tantek was saying and thought this was a good case to try it out and see if it worked.
  • MarkMark Vanilla Staff
    OK, folks. Here is the proposed template for the comments page: http://lussumo.com/community/comments.html Take a look and see what you think...
  • MinisweeperMinisweeper New
    isnt it loreum?
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