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The official I hate PCs discussion
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Yes, and from the looks of it all you do is snobbishly generalize, insult people and try your darnest to tick others off.
It's not like I'm prancing about showing off my new polo pony, or something else you couldn't possibly aspire to.
I cannot possibly succeed in insulting you, no matter how hard I try, unless you believe there is truth in what I say.
Look at all the attempts thrown at me personally, I don't feel the least bit insulted.
By the way it is very immature and petty to attack a participant in a debate. My comments are general, if you choose to place yourself in the category I'm criticizing then take offense, how's that my doing?
And life's dull without humour don't you think? I think it's hilarious how personal you guys take this discussion, you (that's general you not specifically you) are being blind to the issues, missing the points entirely.
My perspective is quite open. The banter is puerile. I'm just enjoying the trash you come out with each time.
By the way, your comments may be general but we take it personally because of the way you say them. Maybe you need to address you posting style.
Marshall McLuhan (not American, Canadian I think) wrote a book called "The Medium is the Massage" in which he sets up the dilemma between discrimination and popular culture. I read it at an early stage of my life and it made an impact, I sometimes dread reading that book, life would have been so much easier if I'd never seen it. (Easier maybe but not as exciting.)
He points out that (my words not his) drones and lemmings simply take on popular culture, be it good or bad. If everyone else is doing it it must be good, that's how "fashion" happens, sure wear 3" heels and tight jocks because that's popular culture.
Now it takes real guts to discriminate, go to a party in flat heels and be comfortable, wear boxers and hang free even if you have to take some jibes in the locker room.
As someone with Mac as my discriminated choice of platform and (warning: humour attempt) boxers for underwear, I have been at the receiving end from those with a more popular choice. From day one people looked down their noses at me because I couldn't run this .exe or that .exe or I couldn't "break into DOS and fix it".
Even today, yes I work in an industry, (Pre-media) where Macs abound and rule, but my workplace, the office, is full (warning: possible generalizations disguised as humour approaching) middle managers, sales reps and bean counters on PCs.
Every year they try to "upgrade" me to a PC, why? So I can be more compatible with the Microsoft calendering system. Now I use Entourage on my Mac, it works well with the calendaring system but I choose to turn that functionality off. That's me discriminating. Want an appointment to meet with me? Use the phone, come over and see me.
I don't want you taking up the 30 minutes I left free for lunch to meet about some stupid problem you caused yourself. If I want to give up my lunch time I will, and do often, but it's my choice, not yours. My wall has a plaque reading "Poor planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine".
They'll try again, to get me on a PC, it's that time of year but I choose to discriminate, not fall into popular culture. Besides, the man in the big office knows I've got my resignation typed out and ready for today's date if they try to strong-arm me. I feel so strongly about my choice (you're surprised right?) that I buy my own hardware and upgrade regularly at my own expense, although it's a great tax write-off.
So, if you're into popular culture, that's fine, that's why it's popular I guess. But I think there comes a time when we should search for the strength to look into discriminating, it's not easy, just look at people's reactions here!
My niece is at an age where she can understand this concept, I didn't have to bring it up, she worked it out all for herself. She is realizing that popular culture is not all it's cracked up to be. Sure she still watches the OC because it's a popular discussion point at school, but you know what she said to me recently? She's 6 months off 14 years of age, she said: "I think your Mac is cool, everything just works and doesn't get in the way exactly when a good idea pops into your head."
And you all wonder why I'm so passionate.
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Hit the nail on the head there mate, but when you produce results and happy customers they smile, grit their teeth then go bang their heads in the privacy of their closed little PC office.
::I do doubt if you fully understand what was offensive in your previous posts but that's another matter.
Oh I do fully understand what was offensive, what I don't understand is why. And it's not "another matter", it's the crux of the issue. Because I choose to stuff popular culture, I'm a snob. Because I encourage people to look for quality and discriminate, I'm offensive.
I do understand though that my humour is not understood, if I was talking to 12-year-olds I'd be a little more restrained and diplomatic but geeze people, you're grown adults.
Maybe it's a cultural thing. I've travelled to the US and found Americans a little humourless. Many a time my wife and I would strike up a conversation in a queue or in a lift and we say something that would get a laugh back home, instead we get a blank look.
Like at the Empire State building, we did the tourist thing and bought a ticket to the top, I jokingly asked "Is this a return ticket?" with a smile on my face (and Yankees cap on my head) but the girl just looked at me with her mouth open. My wife dragged me away before I could say more.
I've been to England too, but the Pommies are another story.
Yup, right, and if the PSP was an Apple product you'd be spot-on, I'd be wrong and all would be well in your little world.
The probable cause, and I could be wrong here but I doubt it, is that the PSP is not written to standards, probably written to talk to proprietary Windows code (oh no, that's never been the case).
The Mac, rather than throwing up umpteen cryptic error messages that wouldn't make sense (although that's probably what PC people would expect) takes the rather harmless guess and treats it like a device containing pictures. Is it?
What are you connecting it to your Mac for anyway? My nephew connects his PSP to my Mac via wireless to get system maintenance updates because he can't get it to work with his dad's PC. (This is a minor issue compared to yours of course.)
However you have probably found a major bug that will hold up the next Mac OS (Leopard) for a year or two so please don't report it to Apple. I hope Steve Jobs doesn't hear about it, is he a member here? Damn, where is that delete function when you need it.
Mac/PC Evangelism is for flock-lovers, just like any other religion.
(there ya have it... that should keep Wanderer busy for another 5 hours, using this thread as a regular honeypot for Mac/PC Zealots and their religious brethren)
I really: should not bother...
Which one?
For all I know I could be conversing with a bunch of 15 year-olds with one hand on the keyboard and the other on their PSP (or worse, eek).
Apologies to 15-year-olds.
(Thanks to the private message from -name withheld- who suggested this might be the case)
However, I'd just like to clear one thing up:The thing is, whether or not they held truth, and whether or not you were directly insulting me, by labelling everyone who uses a PC a 'zombie', 'mindless drone', or whatever, you're insulting people who did actually make an informed choice (eg. me). I'm not trying to say that PCs are superior, nor Macs inferior, I just was miffed that you kept generalizing PC users. (You're right, your comments were general, but I think they were often a little too general.)