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Vanilla Spring 2013 Release - Anything features for the Open Source version?
phreak
Vanilla*APP (White Label) & Vanilla*Skins Shop MVP
I just read about the spring release and the features are rocking great:
http://vanillaforums.com/blog/news/spring-2013-release/
Will we see any of these features in the OS version?
What is meant by "To see what’s new in our open source product, head over to the open source community.", where can this be seen?
If the open source version will not evolve this is pretty sad.
I either thought that a lot of feedback, bug-reports, tickets, translations, add-on (ideas), inbuilt statistics and so on are also coming from this source.
Deduction at this source seems seems to kill Vanilla's OS scene slowly but lasting. Hhmpf, i love OS.
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Advanced Search - http://vanillaforums.org/addon/sphinxsearch-plugin is a good alternative
Groups
LinkedIn Login
MailChimp Integration- http://vanillaforums.org/addon/mailchimpintegration-pluginImproved Applicant SPAM Filtering- these plugins are in the OS Addons repoCategory Image- in 2.1Category CSS- in 2.1New Permissions - We have a new one for users needing approval for posts, and /me is now a core OS feature
Password Strength Meter- in 2.1Improved Password Reset- in 2.1It isn't all doom and gloom :P
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@Tama: Thanx for listing those up. I'd wonder how the Group feature would look likes. Some of the plugins are just killer for my community, but to bad the hosted version is so limited to professionals (no FTP-Access).
They're still the same repo. We add things as addons, some times public, sometimes private. We move things from private to public, not the reverse.
What deduction? Do a diff on core. Where have we done anything other than add tremendous amounts of code and functionality to it? You seem perpetually primed to play Eeyore to our Pooh. :P
@Tama Thanks for that summary. My notes match yours - LinkedIn SSO, Advanced Search, and Groups are the bits reserved to the hosted version.
Thanks Lincoln for your insights. I know you guys are working your asses off to get a great new release out there. We just need to get that 'community' feeling back and we can only do that by helping each other, working together on things we can work on, like documentation. A good example actually was the (hehe) badges plugin by peregrine. Awesome!
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Vanilla = This succinct statement.
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Groups and Memberships are here since 2011...yes, without group's discussions, but with a little work...
By the way, I have just uploaded a plugin to give a role to every user inside a group.
Thank you vanilla core developers for your work.
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Are there any plans to bring an improved search for OS Vanilla? I really got my hopes up when I saw that email.
I'll say now, I'm incredibly grateful for the work of the developers, it's a great product, but the OS version of Vanilla 2 has barely changed since it was released. I'd actually go as far as to say in many ways it's a step back from Vanilla 1.
So no LinkedIn sign in for the self hosted version?
no but it should be easy to implement, just look at the GoogleSignIn Plugin or another OpenID based one
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I'm literally speechless and have no response.
I don't get it, pretty much every plugin works on any version with slight mods or no mods, I don't see the issue personally , I can't see where the problem is . Themes too, they work with slight mods. Everything is good and getting tighter , thanks Vanilla , some of us freeloaders do appreciate the hard work.
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Hi peeps,
I have to recall a part of my statement. Sorry, in this post i was a little overshoot. Yep, it's true that you can "fix" your board with "some" of the extensions in the add-on repository (gut clearly massive communities need feature rich addo-ons like Reactions, Groups, etc.).
I have run into some anger, jap where from... Hmm, we should take a roundtalk at some of the best people and developers who have joined and left the OS scene of Vanilla in the last years. I don't say the Vanilla Corporate has to deal with how the OS scene for Vanilla works, but it's unhealthy and keept up by some users here. Let's say those people commented to this thread + 3 or 4 more head over to discourse.org, because it's just more happiness and perspective there... this place would be an empty land, the repository also the support as well.
Vanillas Team has often commented it wouldn't release some plugins of the hosted version because it's not possible to manage the support requests regarding them. But why is'nt advanced search released to the OS version? It would help a lot of forum owners and communities, as the actual search is quite weak. Search is substantial and every OS board out there has a more qualified one. Or is a very special server and database setup needed to make it run? What would be the price to release it to OS for everyone?
Tell me the number of people that are able to manage sphinx (still thanx to @mcu_hq). The OS Groups plugin at the addon repository is a dead fish. People who will see the Group feature on the hosted version will be running for hundreds into the abandoned Groups plugin. Sorry this is just a part of a "not so well" managed OS land and we could need a little more support while we keep OS tryouters here in the boards happy and supported till probably some (not much but some) of them will one day switch to the hosted version. I also felt always like that there should be more official statements about the 2.1 (RC was promised for christmas last year i remember) or 2.2 versions. Things are very often getting confusing here. It's clearly (watch the related threads) that i'm not the only one to feel left in the dark a little.
@Lincoln: But you are with me that some of the lot of ideas, feedbacks, addons, promotion and love of the last 7 years have gone from public to private/public also. :P
Besides of that, Vanilla is a great tool and thanx to the people doing the hard work that get's into it. There are a lot of positive aspects that is why i'm staying with it. Also VanillaSkins.com is underwork and i run my boards with Vanilla (do also check out Tapatalks BYO App for every forum owner). I just wish there'd be a way to make the OS version almost funny as the hosted version, which is not an option for most (it's not bout the money, it's about the environment those people need to target functions, audiences and markets you can't do with Vanilla's hosted version).
So, enough of OS political feedback.
I can empathise with @phreak. I've always wanted a Porsche 911, but for some reason they seem unwilling to give me one for free
Sorry to be flippant with you freaky because I know you mean well. But for $150 a month the Vanilla guys can make all your problems go away. That's their business and you should avail yourself of it. Alternatively, you have an OS edition which is an excellent framework on which to build and realise your ambitions. All Vanilla ice cream needs some sweet toppings, right?
@50sQuiff: Mah, your statement is all way stupid. yawn Joined September 2012 you should first take a walk through the wayback-machine of the Vanilla website. :P
I described it more than once that it is not about the money... I run a community with 75.000 Visits a month and 500.000+ PageImpressions, not that large but still in my country it's half of the persons adressed by this topic (pregancy).
I provide professional ad-serving to media agencies around a network of more than 15 websites of my own. Limitations of the hosted version doesn't allow me to switch to Vanilla hosted, also you never know where it leads when you host your users in a different network (never put your users to the cloud). When providing advertising deals you would never do that.
Although i try to discuss the OS community situation with Vanilla Team instead of wishing a Porsche 911. People got that i'm biased on this issue but regarding OS communities my experience dates back to 1998 and (Amiga500 demo scenes if you wish) and this place could be more lively if the V-Perspective would open up in different ways, which i totally understand will not be the case. But i can still raise my voice or? Think of Turkey, think of Brazil. Community is a political issue as well. I don't know if the Canadian perspective is as evolved in this concepts as the european is.
So i hope you understand that i run Vanilla professionally and that the thing that i wish to elevate my business on this. I also advice agencies on community building. I already adressed developers here for theme and plugin-development, made batches, run VanillaSkins, and i simply could give back a lot more if i could run a more decent software (look at Contao to see a prosperous OS scene, with way better ideas to monetize the corporate business behind, look how big and great extension funding works there: http://now.metamodel.me/en/fundraising).
So do not come on me with Porsche, i drive Volvo and a lot community software (P1800S) for a long time.
Hi phreak. I've commissioned and managed websites with millions of monthly uniques. To do so I've engaged any number of specialist companies and paid for the privilege. Pay for SaaS or pay for a bespoke build. Self-support or pay for for it. I've done platform and content deals every which way you could conceive. I've had my share of successes and failures.
What I've never done is stand around waiting for people to hand their businesses to me on a plate, for free.
@50sQuiff: Ui, everything is lost with you brother. It happens in this moment were you are not describing what your position on my opinion is... instead you piss in my garden. Learn brother, learn monthly unique discussions.
Too sad this discussion is so outsold, that a lot of people are not engaging in it anymore... it must come from the bloodlines of my ur-grandmother who managed to run a Nazi canteen mixing bad food into the meals of upper officers so they had stomachache from day to day. also if the soldiers were grabbing an ass of one of her younger employees, she took them on their uniform collars and dragged them all the way through the canteen to the door and kicked them out.
Ah yes, this post is set to sink again by the emperors. This function must have been implemented specifically for the OS board as i hardly use it on my forums. @mark o'sullivan please wash those kids their heads with cold water. :P
I am so... confused. On multiple fronts.
The Vanilla dev team has done something wonderful in releasing their codebase. They released their codebase. This might sound silly, but it bears repeating.
They released their codebase as is and without warranty.
It will always lag behind the hosted version. Not out of malice. Not out of greed. It takes time to develop for multiple platforms. It takes time to test software on multiple platforms.
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@hgtonight: Your words a very true. But a weak OS userbase can't support a system especially in times when behemoths like Social-Networks websites or fresh prince Discourse.org and other boards are around the corner. Times were we do not even have a way to test, debug and report a solid search engine. Vanilla's OS policy is to poor and weak to ride the train in 2014, when the diversity of social usage will reach is heaviest impact and "forums" will be the late return of the cavalry ridding in for multiple interest communities. OS is something you think large and not small. Toilet rooms are usually concepted small, because one stays there alone. But also this changed with the internet and tablets.
In short: It's just sad that through the OS policy of the Vanilla-Team we can't open the powers of Vanilla. Ask the good DEVs here in the community. One example: Taking on function-stacked and so also "paid" plugins is not possible as they will not get a 1% refund of the time they invested. There are numerous arguments why growth isn't possible.